Beatrice de Mandeville1 
From before 1098, her married name became Talebot.1
Children of Beatrice de Mandeville and William de Say
- William de Say+1 d. b 1 Aug 1177
- Geoffrey de Say+2 b. b 1135, d. bt 1212 – 1214
William de Say1 
Between December 1141 and June 1142 he was granted his father’s lands in a charter of the Empress Maud.1 In 1144 he joined his brother-in-law, Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex, in rebellion against King Stephen.1
Children of William de Say and Beatrice de Mandeville
- William de Say+1 d. b 1 Aug 1177
- Geoffrey de Say+2 b. b 1135, d. bt 1212 – 1214
unknown wife (?)1
Children of unknown wife (?) and William de Say
- Beatrice de Say+2 d. b 19 Apr 1197
- Maud de Say2 d. b 28 Mar 1222
Beatrice de Say1 
Child of Beatrice de Say and Geoffrey fitz Piers, 3rd Earl of Essex
- Geoffrey de Mandeville, 4th Earl of Essex3 d. 23 Feb 1216
- [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3531. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
- [S37] BP2003. [S37]
- [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume V, page 125. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
William de Say1 
- [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3531. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
Maud de Say1 
William de Boclande1
Half brother of Geoffrey fitz Piers, 3rd Earl of Essex somehow.1 He had three daughters.1 He lived at Buckland, Berkshire, EnglandG.1
- [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3531. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
Geoffrey de Say1 
He was involved in financial transactions and law suits against his cousin and nephew by marriage, Geoffrey fitz Piers, to gain the lands of the Mandeville Earls of Essex.1
Children of Geoffrey de Say and Alice Maminot
- William de Say1 d. b 1 Jan 1198/99
- Ingram de Say1
- Geoffrey de Say+2 b. c 1155, d. 24 Aug 1230
Alice Maminot1
Children of Alice Maminot and Geoffrey de Say
- William de Say1 d. b 1 Jan 1198/99
- Ingram de Say1
- Geoffrey de Say+2 b. c 1155, d. 24 Aug 1230
